Room creator as an admin...

The most thing i hate in admin they cannot correct them selves, I mean if thy see an admin is wrng thy will stil try to protect him,
as u all read when ulu_- said hes in dx community but hes nt bad, pious replied

wrote:A MAN IS KNOWN BY THE COMPANY HE KEEPS

and when he mention some admin whhch r a members of the 1st anti mig-hibaru- he replied

wrote:Thts their own desire wheather they join such communities or whatsoever so iam not really concerned with them

lol yes u nt concerned cus actually u cannot nothing, u cn only shout n ban normal users for being a part of an anti mig community, shame on u and the whole admin system

well joining any communities is not the problem ... i too was in some ksa community with my friends ,, my bro had introduced me to them
that community had many abusers but that didnt make any difference to me cuz i know what i am and how i am those communities cant change me or my personality ...
now if we talk about the topic yes arabian u r right that people take admins side cuz they are ADMINS ... but now mig33 team has decided to cut out the recommendation option so no friends of admins are going to be admins i guess though when mig33 team change their decision who knows ... as i said before that this room creator system is a total failure and nobody will chat in the rooms which are popular now but everyone will create their own rooms and keep flooding in the popular rooms to join this room and join that room ... this is how multi kickers will occupie all the rooms again ...

well,lets wait and see what happens

team might give it a try! bad behaviour of few admins made them to think about this system

they will put some rules so that no one can easily mess

best of luck mig33 team

time will say whether this system suits mig33 or not

Roma-_ wrote:well joining any communities is not the problem ... i too was in some ksa community with my friends ,, my bro had introduced me to them
that community had many abusers but that didnt make any difference to me cuz i know what i am and how i am those communities cant change me or my personality ...

its not a big deal :s hmmm!!!

You know anyone can easily refute those claims about being in a gang just the same way you did. No one can confirm or easily tell that your words are true hence it can't be regarded as a fact but rather personal opinion meant to justify your actions. Pious said,

precious_pious wrote:A MAN IS KNOWN BY THE COMPANY HE KEEPS

and there is also another English saying which say, "birds of the same feather fly together"

yes you may claim that those users cannot change u, but do we actually know that for sure? No!!!
So you say such statement because you know yourself, but then Do we know you like you know yourself? No!!!

Hence some of us will find it hard to just believe your statement, unless a person is that gullible.

Now back to the case about Admins on gang, is thaath12 who is also known as bafaa-hibaru not a big deal? As per your statement.

diez4u wrote:Ibaad bro if you are part of this forum and riz_sydney is admin of here so is it mean that he is your boss ?? Wrong . . . Same is the thing with fahad he is part of any forum so that dosent mean his admin is boss for him

exactly bro, and we are such a good friends that if i say him to make me the admin of that community, he'll do it in seconds , not a big deal ,





well the situation is very much clear now same as i started at yet that no one is perfect and joining the communities is not a problem, i was just telling the merits and some of demerits of admins, and so, the life moves on. . . . .




one thing more that ullu_- is again banned by the wrong kick by silent wishes well he said sorry he is a good man , but the id is still not unbanned yet, so please pray 4 that

This is getting good

Well.. I don't know about others, but if a community is solely dedicated to crossing the limits i.e breaking the rules, then I don't think one good user will be interested to join it. But they might also join if someone lies about the objective of that community, and in that case, the concerned user might stop being a member of that community, If he doesn't want to be a part of community that is destroying the peaceful environment around.

Don't know about others.. anyway..

before someone yells that I am being Off topic.. I am back to topic!!!

I was just thinking, if every user becomes admins, what will happen to the banning system??

Consider this situation.

(the usernames have nothing to do with anyone dead or alive as far as the writer knows, any relevance to anyone dead, alive or zombie is totally unintentional)

in some point of once upon a time in our mig33 land, there is an user named Aradian


and he then decides to create a room called mig44, which will be a very popular room in near future.

Now there is a forum somewhere out there, and Aardian got some problem with an user called trojam.pdf

So, Aradian holds his grudge, and as soon as he gets the chance , he kicks trojam.pdf in the mig44 room.

Say, that happens 3 times.

We all know.. under the present laws of mig33, any user getting 3 admin kicks is banned.

If a kicker decides to create a room, become admin, and then kick the butts of good old users around, what will happen to them??


I got a nice nifty solution of this problem, but before stating it here, I would like to know your opinion.

So, discuss

darkslayer yes u r rite, that what will be the future of such user, who gets 3 kicks by the admin of such room, that will be a bad thing...

@dark,i raised the question before but seems like no one noticed!!!

anyway,it aint gonna be any better then the current admin system

there are many notorious offenders on mig who will try to mess

it could be demoted admins too

Dark u put it nice and trust me i only suppoted this idea because of the most admins are useless and they dnt come online and thy reject when someone add them, unfriendly ignore ppl ,kick ppl by mistake-as thy always claim- and never apologise. We wud not hate admins if they would do their job probably and fairly, i swear i dnt join my fav room cus of flooders because iam tired of keep calling admin and got no reply? And if they come and kick the flooder once they dnt stay in the room, nw i dnt even come to mig.

i don't know what you guys know about the "room creator admin" system and why you guys are opposing it. topic poster just asked a question without giving any idea about the system.anybody who has a little idea about the system and its rules, can't oppose it. i think Its better to know about anything before opposing or supporting it. if you guys mix the room creator system with the current admin system or add some of your own guesses with the system then it will obviously create misunderstanding and it seems that is what happening here.
some of you are asking questions which may never arise if you knew the rules of that system. this topic is passed a long way so i'm not going to quote any question. hope you can find the answers in my post.
i don't find any problem in the room creator admin system and i think its much better than the current admin system. the only problem will be the current rooms and admins. where will we get the room creators of existing rooms and what will current admins do but it can be solved by improving the system a little. you don't need to apply the exact rules as other application applied.
as a irregular user of paltalk i know about the room creator admin system a little. sometime i log in to paltalk to get some different fun. i remember once our forum admin riz explained the room creator admin system of paltalk in a topic of this forum.

Webministrator wrote:in paltalk each and every user got the authority to open up a room, once they opened up a room they become super admin of that room automatically and can make any one admin and super admin of their room.

so mig33 can apply this idea. room owner should be given admin power only for that particular room like paltalk. if he/she appears to be an unfair admin, users wouldnt go to their room. in this instance you can point out, then every one would open up their own room. yup thats right. so whats the worst? in paltalk every one has their own room but some rooms are still unique and popular, because their owner matters, their owner makes the difference.

now you can ask, what to do with popular rooms thats been opened up by mig33 or default room of mig33. yup there they can keep existing admins to patrol.

in paltalk a room be disabled if no admin stay in that room. to continue chatting in a room there must be any admin present in the room. but we know it is not possible for someone to stay in a room 24 hour. for that the room creator can make anybody else admin of his room. is there anything wrong in having an admin always in room? i don't think so.
some of you asked question like what if any of your enemy kick you from his room. may i know what is the need of going to your enemies or any other bad users room who will kick you out without any reason and i don't think mig33 team is so fool that they will give any room creator the power of banning any users id. if a user be kicked from any room then he will be banned only from that particular room and i don't find anything wrong there. who will join his enemies room as riz bro said, room owner makes the different.
now you can say you will know the room creator after joining the room and room creator can kick you just after entering the room. yes he can kick but nothing will harm you if you be kicked once from a room or be banned from a room and don't don't forget that there is a email address contact@mig33.com. you can send your complain to mig33 and if they find the room creators guilty then they will take action against that room creator as they take action against multi kickers now.
existing admin can work as a room creator controller. they will check all rooms and send report to mig33 team if there's anybody misusing their power.

Very nyc post happy but i dnt agree u with u in one point. Admin them selves need to be patroled. So the whole admin system must be vanished. For the current existing room mig must apoint some users as a room creator.
Incase if mig want to make a room patrol must be from the mig staff cus its their job and ther r resoanable

yup thats exactly what I have said earlier happy.

I support this system through and through though It sounds harsh to recent admins and wannabe admins.

paltalk is most popular chat server these days because of their this fair administration system. on the other hand yahoo and IRC are losing popularity.

here I agree with happy. most of you have complained what if a multi kicker opened up a room and have you kicked out of their room !! well its apparently appears to be a silly issue. why would you go to a kicker's room anyway while you have ur own room?

in this system every group ( friend's cricle) would be able to chat peacefully in their rooms. for insctace, once I used to chat on paltalk, I had a room, that was popular room. when I used to open my room I send invitation to all friends of mine and they used to come, we used to have fun. however if any one else of our group open a room, we go out there and have fun. some times some abusers come and try to abuse. but what's the big deal ?? its just a matter of a click to get them hell out of our room.

now about banning ! staff will only have that authority and power to ban abuser and if possible mig33 can give the authority of banning to the room owner so that they can ban a user only from their room, not from mig33 lol. this is the way paltalk do. @ dark bro mig33 team definitely will change this ban by 3 kick strategy then. why you guys are taking the whole thing that way? by this system every one is not becoming typical mig33 admin, rather they will get the authority to rule and keep clean their own room. thats it. its not all about enjoying admin status, its about enjoying chatting in a native room with ur friends where about a stranger or an abuser cant spoil ur chat. you dont have to be getting sick and tired of begging admins asking for help. you can do it right away by ur own. Think it that way. you probably an user of popular room like uk-london where bunch of admins attend all the times. I have found some admins staying that room being lazy and enjoying their admin fam while some other rooms were struggling without an admin. but what about lots of unknown rooms where admins hardly show up?

couple of months before we had opened up our room mig33friends for holding a meeting and interacting with the member of our community. we had full room of users. but what happened? some abusers from a so called community got in the middle and ruined the room, the kicked each and every user out of room. eventhough there had been an admin present at that time. its just an example. I dont want this system for my personal benefit because I hardly get online these days. I cant even allow times to forum. may be once in a month I get online on mig.

look at yahoo, facebook. Most users got their own group. but some groups are still popular. I think a decent and organized user can easily get his/ her room popular. the user who got a good administation skill, decent manner and a positive attitude, in a word who got the skill to be a perfect admin, can make their room popular. every one would love to chat in their room as long as they are fair.

another idea mig33 team can take into consideration. they can set up some help rooms like paltalk. if any user got any kind of trouble they will go to help lobby and ask for help. in help room mig33 staff and current admins would be available.

in fact, this idea is much better than current controversial administration system.

webministrator wrote:I support this system through and through though It sounds harsh to recent admins and wannabe admins.

lol exactly though they accused me when i said like this, lol lets see hw thy gona reply aftr u make it clear

I don't know why are you guys criticising those who wants to be an admin? How do you know that all the users who wants to be an admin have just only the fascination of the power of admins. If you have known so would you tell me that everybody have bad intention to be an admin or would you tell me nobody is the right person for that position. So far you made me understood from your post that you don't have the full idea about why users want to be an admin. remember one thing that once the current admins was in that so called "wanna be admin" group. thats why they are admin today and most of them are helping users as well as helping mig33 except some of them who became admin just for the power and popularity.
You have just developed one sided idea of it. You just think the negative sides, but in this world there is positive and negative of everything except some basic things i.e. Education, islam etc. Having a good personality it's required to know both sides and being empathetic. So you better think in an appreciating way that admins are for helping users and mig33 community as well. Do they get paid for this? No, they're not serving against any cash. So why do users want to be an admin and take such challenging responsibilities without any payment. Definitely in general we think of admins as honest and they're doing great job.. so for a good job. Think of the volunteers, there're so many of us doing volunteery work in real life, do you think we just do this job just to be popular and get some extra ordinary power.. I think people don't do so to get the power but they do such great jobs those make them get special powers.. So those who desire to be an admin they're good in that sense that a good and honest mind goes for or looks for such kind of special positions or works.. so they can help as they want. yes you can show me many examples which may made you bound to think negative about the wanna be admins but the power is not only the reason behind wanna be admin. some want to be admin to use the power to help users or save them from the abusers, some may not do the same but nobody can blame them as they will do misuse the power. i know if we have a positive experience with a person or system, our attitude towards him or the system is likely to be positive and conversely negative experiences tend to make us cautious.
coming to the topic, who told you that everybody wants to be an admin who is not supporting the idea? i know not all here want to be admin who opposed this idea of changing the moderating system of mig33. its just some lack of knowledge about the new system made them comment negative. i would have post the same comments as they did, if i had not got any idea about it.

ahem... after reading all... i think it wont be bad... as long as mig33 staffs stays available to help room creator's